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Whatever we think of archive.org's position, modern AI companies have clearly taken the same basic position.

Whatever we think of archive.org's position, modern AI companies have clearly taken the same basic position. And are willing to devote a lot more resources to vacuuming up the internet than crawlers did back in 2011. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43476337 for a random example of a discussion about this. My personal position is that robots.txt is useless when faced with companies who have no sense of shame about abusing the resources of others. And if it is useless, there isn't much of a point in having it. Just make sure that nothing public facing is going to be too expensive for your server. But that's like saying that the solution to thieves is to not carry money around. Yes, it is a reasonable precaution. But it doesn't leave me feeling any better about the thieves.

Posted by btilly on Aug 18, 2025, 6:49 PM

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Whatever we think of archive.org's position, modern AI companies have clearly taken the same basic position.

btillyAug 18, 2025, 6:49 PM

Whatever we think of archive.org's position, modern AI companies have clearly taken the same basic position. And are willing to devote a lot more resources to vacuuming up the internet than crawlers did back in 2011. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43476337 for a random example of a discussion about this. My personal position is that robots.txt is useless when faced with companies who have no sense of shame about abusing the resources of others. And if it is useless, there isn't much of a point in having it. Just make sure that nothing public facing is going to be too expensive for your server. But that's like saying that the solution to thieves is to not carry money around. Yes, it is a reasonable precaution. But it doesn't leave me feeling any better about the thieves.

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