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I think the challenge here is that one definition of success here would be the prevention of unauthorized access to data by all parties, ...

I think the challenge here is that one definition of success here would be the prevention of unauthorized access to data by all parties, and that would of necessity, include the government. The reason you need to protect data from nation-states is that there are enemy nation-states trying to get it, and there is no physical barrier between the data and them, so the only answer is to protect it from all nation-states, even the one where it is located. The reason it has to be authorized is because data access is a 'rights' sort of thing (akin to property) and the processes that we put in place which insert a due process between data and a government agency need to be just as strong at the ones between property and a government agency. For me, that is why the metaphor of a 'Manhattan' project doesn't work for me. If this effort were the Manhatten project we would be building a nuclear bomb that the people could use against any government but that the governments could not control. And well they would never sign up for that because they have nothing to gain from it. I would much prefer to call the effort a 'Magna Carta' effort that forces the monarch in power to submit to the data privacy demands of the subjects.

Posted by ChuckMcM on Feb 7, 2015, 12:21 AM

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I think the challenge here is that one definition of success here would be the prevention of unauthorized access to data by all parties, ...

ChuckMcMFeb 7, 2015, 12:21 AM

I think the challenge here is that one definition of success here would be the prevention of unauthorized access to data by all parties, and that would of necessity, include the government. The reason you need to protect data from nation-states is that there are enemy nation-states trying to get it, and there is no physical barrier between the data and them, so the only answer is to protect it from all nation-states, even the one where it is located. The reason it has to be authorized is because data access is a 'rights' sort of thing (akin to property) and the processes that we put in place which insert a due process between data and a government agency need to be just as strong at the ones between property and a government agency. For me, that is why the metaphor of a 'Manhattan' project doesn't work for me. If this effort were the Manhatten project we would be building a nuclear bomb that the people could use against any government but that the governments could not control. And well they would never sign up for that because they have nothing to gain from it. I would much prefer to call the effort a 'Magna Carta' effort that forces the monarch in power to submit to the data privacy demands of the subjects.

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