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America's entire justice system seems unfair to the poor.

America's entire justice system seems unfair to the poor. Or to phase it another way, I literally don't believe the poor get a fair or speedy trial, but do believe the rich can. Bail is a big problem. Plea agreements and their relationship to public defender's workload are another massive problem. A lot of people without much familiarity of the legal system think things like "no innocent person would ever plead guilty!" but the way the US legal/justice system is set up right now, it is often the least-bad alternative to plead guilty to a crime you didn't commit than to fight it. And I'd love to point my finger at one individual or set of individuals, but the reality is that the entire system is broken, and it isn't broken because of bad actors, it is broken because it is just poorly designed and implemented at its core (although moral prosecutors can help mitigate some of the problems). The UK justice system is imperfect, but things like no plea deals, no monetary bail, and better pay for public defenders (although still too low, and they're still overworked) improve things a lot. Plus prosecutors aren't politically motivated and are interested in justice (elected prosecutors is another massive problem in the US). The US criminal justice system is "scary." I feel bad for anyone who it victimises, in particular the poor.

Posted by Someone1234 on May 27, 2015, 7:36 PM

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America's entire justice system seems unfair to the poor.

Someone1234May 27, 2015, 7:36 PM

America's entire justice system seems unfair to the poor. Or to phase it another way, I literally don't believe the poor get a fair or speedy trial, but do believe the rich can. Bail is a big problem. Plea agreements and their relationship to public defender's workload are another massive problem. A lot of people without much familiarity of the legal system think things like "no innocent person would ever plead guilty!" but the way the US legal/justice system is set up right now, it is often the least-bad alternative to plead guilty to a crime you didn't commit than to fight it. And I'd love to point my finger at one individual or set of individuals, but the reality is that the entire system is broken, and it isn't broken because of bad actors, it is broken because it is just poorly designed and implemented at its core (although moral prosecutors can help mitigate some of the problems). The UK justice system is imperfect, but things like no plea deals, no monetary bail, and better pay for public defenders (although still too low, and they're still overworked) improve things a lot. Plus prosecutors aren't politically motivated and are interested in justice (elected prosecutors is another massive problem in the US). The US criminal justice system is "scary." I feel bad for anyone who it victimises, in particular the poor.

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