> So you trusted 22-year-old coffee junkies copying and pasting from stack overflow 10 years ago Absolutely yes...
> So you trusted 22-year-old coffee junkies copying and pasting from stack overflow 10 years ago Absolutely yes... The difference between those "22 year old coffee junkies" and some dude prompting an LLM is that the 22 year olds from 10 years ago still had to actually use their brains. They thought of the problem, came up with possible solutions, architecture, software stack, implementation etc... Some of this undoubtedly was copy/paste from stack overflow, but in that process: googled/researched things, read results from google (blog posts, stack overflow posts, maybe even books). And in that process they actually learned about software development and mastered the craft. That isn't a thing with vibe coding, LLM's don't "care" about the project/software they build. Most vibe coders don't even care. I hate that I have to say this but inevitably people get mad if you don't: I'm not anti ai and LLM's are obviously useful in 2026. But I definitely have way more trust in software made the "old" way, by people who actually gave a shit, compared to software "written by" vibe coders.
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I left Gnome 3 for Mate early on and I never looked back, but here are the issues I remember.
Yay, I found my people… I switch between Android and iPhone every few cycles, and I really do miss my swipe keyboard on Android.
> LLMs to me are just another tool.
I used to be one of those people that would countdown the hours to Apple's launch events and tune in for the live stream.
> "Over the years it has been clear that we in the “open source” camp (as opposed to the “free software” camp) were wrong all along.
> So you trusted 22-year-old coffee junkies copying and pasting from stack overflow 10 years ago Absolutely yes...
I don't want to Godwin this thread so early, but you know what analogy I'm thinking of.
Some people don’t use AI and I don’t get it.
> So you trusted 22-year-old coffee junkies copying and pasting from stack overflow 10 years ago Absolutely yes...
> So you trusted 22-year-old coffee junkies copying and pasting from stack overflow 10 years ago Absolutely yes... The difference between those "22 year old coffee junkies" and some dude prompting an LLM is that the 22 year olds from 10 years ago still had to actually use their brains. They thought of the problem, came up with possible solutions, architecture, software stack, implementation etc... Some of this undoubtedly was copy/paste from stack overflow, but in that process: googled/researched things, read results from google (blog posts, stack overflow posts, maybe even books). And in that process they actually learned about software development and mastered the craft. That isn't a thing with vibe coding, LLM's don't "care" about the project/software they build. Most vibe coders don't even care. I hate that I have to say this but inevitably people get mad if you don't: I'm not anti ai and LLM's are obviously useful in 2026. But I definitely have way more trust in software made the "old" way, by people who actually gave a shit, compared to software "written by" vibe coders.
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