> If it is open source, then I can build and install it myself.
> If it is open source, then I can build and install it myself. If the developer gets verified, then I can sideload it. Although that might be true for you it's very much false for 99% of Android's user base. Android is a nightmare to compile for, I love to compile on linux/win/bsd but I recall only once or twice compiling Android projects and would do everything to avoid that mess in the future. For all intents and purposes, we should accept that Android users must be able to install pre-compiled open source software. In sane operating environments there's the option of reproducible builds, which guarantee that a particular binary comes from a particular source, if Google cared about Android users, they would make that available for Android too. > I totally agree that device manufacturers should be forced by law to make it possible to run an alternative OS like GrapheneOS. There's some incongruity here - if users could install any other OS on their phones we wouldn't be having this conversation because 1. nobody would care about side-loading being unavailable and 2. Google would never limit it in the first place due to competitive forces. In other words, installing other OSes is a high-value goal and it makes sense to use every occasion to put pressure on Google to move in that direction - and there is no better occasion than pushing for open sideloading. It should be abundantly clear that if you can't get open sideloading you will never get open OS install.
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Qt is fully of bugs on Wayland, some of which are unfixable because the API makes guarantees that are impossible to uphold.
I took the plunge into GrapheneOS a week ago.
[FEATURE] Multi-device Cowork: Allow concurrent Cowork agents on multiple machines under a single account
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> If it is open source, then I can build and install it myself.
> If it is open source, then I can build and install it myself.
> If it is open source, then I can build and install it myself. If the developer gets verified, then I can sideload it. Although that might be true for you it's very much false for 99% of Android's user base. Android is a nightmare to compile for, I love to compile on linux/win/bsd but I recall only once or twice compiling Android projects and would do everything to avoid that mess in the future. For all intents and purposes, we should accept that Android users must be able to install pre-compiled open source software. In sane operating environments there's the option of reproducible builds, which guarantee that a particular binary comes from a particular source, if Google cared about Android users, they would make that available for Android too. > I totally agree that device manufacturers should be forced by law to make it possible to run an alternative OS like GrapheneOS. There's some incongruity here - if users could install any other OS on their phones we wouldn't be having this conversation because 1. nobody would care about side-loading being unavailable and 2. Google would never limit it in the first place due to competitive forces. In other words, installing other OSes is a high-value goal and it makes sense to use every occasion to put pressure on Google to move in that direction - and there is no better occasion than pushing for open sideloading. It should be abundantly clear that if you can't get open sideloading you will never get open OS install.
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