> The front-end dev space feels like a cacophony of people all blurting out the same over-engineered stack.
> The front-end dev space feels like a cacophony of people all blurting out the same over-engineered stack. If your app is a few lists, a chart, and a form... Does it _reaaallly_ need React? If your app is that simple you don't even need Rails. In my experience, everything starts that simple. But then time passes, team members rotate, and... your PM keeps asking to add more and more features... And that's when the "simplicity of hotwire" becomes a nightmare to maintain. And guess what, the next dev that comes to the project will hate all the hotwire crap, and whoever built it. It's easier to make a simple list and a form with React/vue/svelte even if it seems overkill at first, because when things get more difficult you already have the big guns. If you start with the tools to build simple, well.... wish your project stays that simple forever, or that you're given enough time to rewrite everything. > 37signals is afterall running multiple successful products with Rails, and one of them is an email client. These applications may be a successful product, despite of hotwire, but they're not a good example of anything. They feel like shit to me (using them from Europe). And again, the main problem is not the end result but the maintenance. If there's anything we've got from all of this mess, is that implementing UIs as "components" are the best idea in the last 10 years. Stop beating the dead horse of variables interpolated in templates. It just doesn't work (unless you work alone).
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> The front-end dev space feels like a cacophony of people all blurting out the same over-engineered stack.
> The front-end dev space feels like a cacophony of people all blurting out the same over-engineered stack. If your app is a few lists, a chart, and a form... Does it _reaaallly_ need React? If your app is that simple you don't even need Rails. In my experience, everything starts that simple. But then time passes, team members rotate, and... your PM keeps asking to add more and more features... And that's when the "simplicity of hotwire" becomes a nightmare to maintain. And guess what, the next dev that comes to the project will hate all the hotwire crap, and whoever built it. It's easier to make a simple list and a form with React/vue/svelte even if it seems overkill at first, because when things get more difficult you already have the big guns. If you start with the tools to build simple, well.... wish your project stays that simple forever, or that you're given enough time to rewrite everything. > 37signals is afterall running multiple successful products with Rails, and one of them is an email client. These applications may be a successful product, despite of hotwire, but they're not a good example of anything. They feel like shit to me (using them from Europe). And again, the main problem is not the end result but the maintenance. If there's anything we've got from all of this mess, is that implementing UIs as "components" are the best idea in the last 10 years. Stop beating the dead horse of variables interpolated in templates. It just doesn't work (unless you work alone).
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