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This 100%. I have a complicated google password - I use it no where else. I have a security key. In 12 years I've NEVER had to change my google account password AND I have not been hacked. This works well. Because google is resistant to brute force I don't even bother adding tons of weird special characters. I worked at a govt related agency. They had to change passwords every 30 days and there was a dual password requirement (one to login to the VPN, the next for the app). Result? - Many folks used a shared account with a public password emailed out every 30 days so everyone else did not have to deal with all the hassles of the password expiration dance. It was also super hard to onboard anyone new (ie, 3-4 months for staff with 12 month projects) This account ended up posted next to every computer. The idea that making security so user unfriendly will makes folks like and use security is a ridiculous approach. - Rate limit attempts - Block after 4 tries for an hour, after 8 tries till a reset - Screen against password lists - Screen out other obviously bad (ie, too short etc). - Allow hardware 2fa BUT allow staff to validate computer. This alone gets you a ton of mileage

Posted by privateSFacct on May 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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This 100%.

privateSFacctMay 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

This 100%. I have a complicated google password - I use it no where else. I have a security key. In 12 years I've NEVER had to change my google account password AND I have not been hacked. This works well. Because google is resistant to brute force I don't even bother adding tons of weird special characters. I worked at a govt related agency. They had to change passwords every 30 days and there was a dual password requirement (one to login to the VPN, the next for the app). Result? - Many folks used a shared account with a public password emailed out every 30 days so everyone else did not have to deal with all the hassles of the password expiration dance. It was also super hard to onboard anyone new (ie, 3-4 months for staff with 12 month projects) This account ended up posted next to every computer. The idea that making security so user unfriendly will makes folks like and use security is a ridiculous approach. - Rate limit attempts - Block after 4 tries for an hour, after 8 tries till a reset - Screen against password lists - Screen out other obviously bad (ie, too short etc). - Allow hardware 2fa BUT allow staff to validate computer. This alone gets you a ton of mileage

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