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Syntax isn't really the problem, given that one could easily write a wrapper around pacman, or apt-get, or dnf/zypper (at least for ...

Syntax isn't really the problem, given that one could easily write a wrapper around pacman, or apt-get, or dnf/zypper (at least for the subset of common operations supported by all). The problem with pacman as a package manager is that it simply does not have the features needed by fedora or debian. With the infrastructure given by Arch there is basically no way to have automated upgrades without potentially breaking the system. The same goes for the AUR: it's great when you know that the user is reading the script and making sure it's not malicious: it's not a model that scales for server (just like FreeBSD ports do not cut it if you have lots of machines), or if you imagine 10% of the computer running Arch (malware bonanza). Still, automating apt-get is messy (and here dnf/zypper do a better job) and building .deb packages and setting up your own repo is too complicated.

Posted by baghira on May 17, 2015, 6:11 PM

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Syntax isn't really the problem, given that one could easily write a wrapper around pacman, or apt-get, or dnf/zypper (at least for ...

baghiraMay 17, 2015, 6:11 PM

Syntax isn't really the problem, given that one could easily write a wrapper around pacman, or apt-get, or dnf/zypper (at least for the subset of common operations supported by all). The problem with pacman as a package manager is that it simply does not have the features needed by fedora or debian. With the infrastructure given by Arch there is basically no way to have automated upgrades without potentially breaking the system. The same goes for the AUR: it's great when you know that the user is reading the script and making sure it's not malicious: it's not a model that scales for server (just like FreeBSD ports do not cut it if you have lots of machines), or if you imagine 10% of the computer running Arch (malware bonanza). Still, automating apt-get is messy (and here dnf/zypper do a better job) and building .deb packages and setting up your own repo is too complicated.

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