> As far as I can tell, the inflated prices (that almost no one pays) are mostly just so the hospital can report how much they're "losing...
> As far as I can tell, the inflated prices (that almost no one pays) are mostly just so the hospital can report how much they're "losing" treating uninsured patients who can't pay. Actually, it's because they lose money (on average) on patients on public insurance (Medicare[0] and Medicaid patients), so they need to charge private insurers more to cover the gap[1]. Insurers negotiate "discounted" rates with certain "preferred" hospitals in exchange for sending them more volume, but in this case "discounted" means "still overpriced, but closer to the actual marginal cost". The other private insurers still pay the exorbitant rates. This is why hospitals are completely willing to lower your bill if you are uninsured and paying cash if you ask - they don't care about the money they're getting from you; they care about the money they're getting from the private insurers. The amount of money they make off of patients who are uninsured and paying out of pocket is negligible in this calculus. Many hospitals are not at all secretive about this; executives talk about this pricing model fairly openly. [0] For simplicity, I'm ignoring Medicare Advantage plans here. [1] The ratio of this is HIGHLY dependent on the patient demographics of the particular hospital, but the general trend holds throughout.
Posted by chimeracoder on Sep 11, 2014, 8:37 PM
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I love Americans making arguments against things like paper ballots or health care on the basis of "it's too expensive for such a large c...
People hate it when faceless bureaucrats decide that some health care expense is too expensive for the large faceless bureaucracy to cove...
> I will never understand why people think ACA was so great.
Turning oneself in doesn't absolve one of a crime.
All that we know is that the doctor carefully guided the patient out of the intervention, flashing a value that nobody had introduced bef...
> Is that what we want?
If we're gonna stick with private insurance in the US, we should detach it from employment.
>Putting the entire population on vitamin D supplements would be too expensive for the country’s national health service, he told me.
> As far as I can tell, the inflated prices (that almost no one pays) are mostly just so the hospital can report how much they're "losing...
> As far as I can tell, the inflated prices (that almost no one pays) are mostly just so the hospital can report how much they're "losing" treating uninsured patients who can't pay. Actually, it's because they lose money (on average) on patients on public insurance (Medicare[0] and Medicaid patients), so they need to charge private insurers more to cover the gap[1]. Insurers negotiate "discounted" rates with certain "preferred" hospitals in exchange for sending them more volume, but in this case "discounted" means "still overpriced, but closer to the actual marginal cost". The other private insurers still pay the exorbitant rates. This is why hospitals are completely willing to lower your bill if you are uninsured and paying cash if you ask - they don't care about the money they're getting from you; they care about the money they're getting from the private insurers. The amount of money they make off of patients who are uninsured and paying out of pocket is negligible in this calculus. Many hospitals are not at all secretive about this; executives talk about this pricing model fairly openly. [0] For simplicity, I'm ignoring Medicare Advantage plans here. [1] The ratio of this is HIGHLY dependent on the patient demographics of the particular hospital, but the general trend holds throughout.
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