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I'm tired of articles that explain absolutely nothing about the actual methodology of the hack.

I'm tired of articles that explain absolutely nothing about the actual methodology of the hack. Does Jeep Cherokee have separate buses for high-speed controller and low-speed infotainment CAN? (That's the usual setup.) What controller acts as the gateway between them? Is it read-write (which would be incredibly dumb) or did they actually hack that controller after hacking infotainment? I had shown similar articles/research papers to my friends working in automotive. They pointed out several factual mistakes and said it's generic fluff with no meaningful technical details. (See the questions above.) If realistically exploitable, these vulnerabilities are serious stuff. Hackers/journalists need to get their shit together and communicate these findings in an appropriate way. 99.9% of automotive engineers do not go to Black Hat conference.

Posted by romaniv on Jul 22, 2015, 3:56 PM

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I'm tired of articles that explain absolutely nothing about the actual methodology of the hack.

romanivJul 22, 2015, 3:56 PM

I'm tired of articles that explain absolutely nothing about the actual methodology of the hack. Does Jeep Cherokee have separate buses for high-speed controller and low-speed infotainment CAN? (That's the usual setup.) What controller acts as the gateway between them? Is it read-write (which would be incredibly dumb) or did they actually hack that controller after hacking infotainment? I had shown similar articles/research papers to my friends working in automotive. They pointed out several factual mistakes and said it's generic fluff with no meaningful technical details. (See the questions above.) If realistically exploitable, these vulnerabilities are serious stuff. Hackers/journalists need to get their shit together and communicate these findings in an appropriate way. 99.9% of automotive engineers do not go to Black Hat conference.

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